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Changing Host Name [message #169611] Thu, 27 April 2006 14:20 Go to next message
FutureTechWest
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Good Afternoon All,

Currently we are running Oracle DB, APP SERVER and COLLAB Suite now the question I have is this.

When one types in the domain it all switches over to the hostname.domain. format. We would like to be able to rename the hostname to things like. portal and collaborate is this possible?

i.e.

now
server01frontend.domain.ca where we would like it instead to read something like. portal.domain.ca and collaborate.domain.ca

thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide.

Darren Gill
Director Programs and Operations
Re: Changing Host Name [message #169630 is a reply to message #169611] Thu, 27 April 2006 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BlackSwan
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RTFM on DNS
This question has NOTHING to do with Oracle.
Re: Changing Host Name [message #169752 is a reply to message #169630] Fri, 28 April 2006 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FutureTechWest
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Perhaps I need to rephrase this in that maybe it was a misleading question the way I posted it. We own our servers we have a domain registered.

So once again in regards to the posting our tnsnames.ora files look like this

InfraTier

# tnsnames.ora Network Configuration File: /opt/oracle/oraASInfra10g/network/admin/tnsnames.ora
# Generated by Oracle configuration tools.

**Details modified for this post include hostname and domain name

ASDB =
(DESCRIPTION =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = HOSTNAME.DOMAINNAME.ca)(PORT = 1521))
(CONNECT_DATA =
(SERVER = DEDICATED)
(SERVICE_NAME = asdb.DOMAIN.ca)
)
)

EXTPROC_CONNECTION_DATA =
(DESCRIPTION =
(ADDRESS_LIST =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = HOSTNAME.DOMAIN.ca)(PORT = 1521))
)
(CONNECT_DATA =
(SERVICE_NAME = PLSExtProc)
)
)

MidTier
# tnsnames.ora Network Configuration File: /opt/oracle/oraASMT10g/network/admin/tnsnames.ora
# Generated by Oracle configuration tools.

**Details modified for this post include hostname and domain name

REP_HOSTNAME_ORAASMT10G.DOMAINNAME.CA =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = tcp)(HOST = Hostname)(PORT = 1950))


EXTPROC_CONNECTION_DATA =
(DESCRIPTION =
(ADDRESS_LIST =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = hostname.domainname.ca)(PORT = 1521))
)
(CONNECT_DATA =
(SERVICE_NAME = PLSExtProc)
)
)

Now I hope this clears it up more and maybe you might be able to help. Note that it does have EVERYTHING to do with ORACLE as it is associated with ORACLE Infrastructure and MID TIER FILES where it has to be reflected with any changes to Server name. In effect can the HOST name be changed?

As for your response anacedent looking at most of your replies to peoples questions you have nothing useful to say about most questions. If you can not keep things professional why are you here? Maybe spend some time on google looking up Professionalism and Integrity.
Re: Changing Host Name [message #169754 is a reply to message #169611] Fri, 28 April 2006 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BlackSwan
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when all else fails, RTFM
http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B25221_03/core.1013/b25209/host.htm#sthref485
Re: Changing Host Name [message #169756 is a reply to message #169754] Fri, 28 April 2006 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FutureTechWest
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Thank you, this will prove to be helpful. We spent a long time looking to see what we could find in the masses of dcoumentation and did not come across this.
Re: Changing Host Name [message #169759 is a reply to message #169611] Fri, 28 April 2006 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BlackSwan
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I still contend that via DNS any alias you desire can be created; regardless of the actual "hostname'; which will be MUCH easier than actually changing host/domain names.
Re: Changing Host Name [message #169774 is a reply to message #169759] Fri, 28 April 2006 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
andrew again
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If oracle don't make the suggestion of adding a DNS alias and you do, you're playing with fire. There are plenty of things going on under the covers which aren't evident - intelligent NICs, IPC modes etc. I'm not saying don't add a DNS alias, but be aware of the risks...
Re: Changing Host Name [message #169787 is a reply to message #169759] Fri, 28 April 2006 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FutureTechWest
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anacedent wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 12:16

I still contend that via DNS any alias you desire can be created; regardless of the actual "hostname'; which will be MUCH easier than actually changing host/domain names.


After reading through the manual that you referred we could change the mid tiers however on our infra due to budget starting out we had to put meta and identity management on same so could not change it. Thus we are trying to do the CNAME route via DNS will know in about 24 hours if it will succeed.

Thanks,
Darren
Re: Changing Host Name [message #169788 is a reply to message #169774] Fri, 28 April 2006 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FutureTechWest
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andrew again wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 14:00

If oracle don't make the suggestion of adding a DNS alias and you do, you're playing with fire. There are plenty of things going on under the covers which aren't evident - intelligent NICs, IPC modes etc. I'm not saying don't add a DNS alias, but be aware of the risks...


Thanks Andrew, as we are still not live to the public it does not matter to me as far as a risk mitigation if it doesnt take all we need to do is revert the dns info back to what it is. The downtime to the public wont effect us as it is not technicaly made public yet anyways. In essence with the DNS we are simply atempting to cloak the address not remove it and figured this is the easiest route to revert back from in case of a failure rather then attempting it on our end for now.
Re: Changing Host Name [message #170023 is a reply to message #169611] Mon, 01 May 2006 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FutureTechWest
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Well the CNAME(Alias) way did not take. After spending sometime with the technical staff at the DNS they do not believe they can do it on their end and are pointting to it having to be done on our end. Has anyone ever played around with the URL rewrite and if so have you found it to be successful?
Re: Changing Host Name [message #170024 is a reply to message #170023] Mon, 01 May 2006 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
andrew again
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On 9iAS 9.0.2, this was an area we looked at on Solaris:
http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/cd/A97331_09/install.902/install/requirements.htm#1028982
Re: Changing Host Name [message #170171 is a reply to message #170024] Tue, 02 May 2006 07:56 Go to previous message
FutureTechWest
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thanks andrew we are interested in modifying the url that is displayed when the user brings up the page from servername.domain.ca to something like http://www.domain.ca"

Right now we used the URL rewrite which is working on making things such as servername.domain.ca/PAGE1 and so forth as in we are able to rewrite the page groups but still not able to rewrite the servername to read something else.
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